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May 18th, 2007

I am confused before even I start writing this post. Ok let me think,

Movie for a family of four?
Difficult. Considering that family would like to goto a PVR or INOX or the dreaded Innovative (I hate calling it a Multiplex) almost impossible. Around 250 for ticket, 400 for refreshments, definitely the budget overshoots.
You have the option of theaters but who goes for them anyway.

Lunch for Two?
Half the so called good restaurants in Bangalore will overshoot the budget for a decent enough meal with a drink.
I have always felt that restaurants in Bangalore work on simple principle- “Overpricing makes one popular.”

Monthly Rent for a Room (some sort of thing you can call home)?
Ummmff….forget it.

Why all of a sudden I started discussing this? First of all nothing meant against all the restaurants or the Cinemas in the city. You offer a service and most of us pay for it. So don’t take anything personally.

Couple of days back a guy visited my home to fit mosquito repellent mesh. I started having a nice chat with this guy who spoke broken Hindi on topics like Mungaru Male and Uppi, and also some conversation on his studies which he wanted to do. I asked him what his room rent is and that guy answered Rs.1000.

Room Details: 1 Room (that’s it), Common Bathroom outside with no proper Sanitation facility and mostly no Water (and during rains lots of it)

Another thing 2 people share the room which is located in a slum on Tumkur Road. All that in a Rs. 2000 salary (from which this guy also saves and sends to Tumkur where he comes from). According to him in the past few years Bangalore has become unaffordable for people with a similar economic background like him. Consider comment by Shrisha on her post on Taking a stand on child-labour.

Poverty seems like never-ending, or a circle w/o a neat exit

Poverty is inherent to any urban structure. A rich poor divide exists in all the cities, but visibly I feel the poor in Bangalore are much more crunched than in other cities. Problems like Water, Electricity and Public transport are the main chores. It is not like they don’t exist in other cities but a culture of living with poverty binds them to the urban culture of the respective city. I may sound senseless but visiting a Slum in Mumbai may clear that the line between Poverty, development and happiness is thin or the visit may confuse you further more that does it exist at all. In case of Bangalore the development has lead to large scale migration on all economic levels. But for the pinnacle of Pyramid to rise the base has to increase.

In a way what the poor in city need are some basic amenities and then they will try to enjoy everything else in whatever they have. Maybe my post is inconclusive and maybe it is misleading. But again poverty is like that a circle, you will always come back to the starting point.

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Shirsha says:

Iow, Blr has a higher cost of living than Mumbai or kolkata or even Delhi. Poor ppl can afford basic amenities more easily in those cities…
And whats more, the costly basic amenities in Blr are not upto the mark even!

sunit says:

There’s no doubt that Bangalore is an expensive city to live in. But believe me, though Mumbai is no longer the city of dreams. It still is ridiculously expensive to live in. I fail to realize why? Especially, with the sad state of affairs out here. With the amount that you shell out one would expect a state of the art lifestyle. I know a lot of ex-pats have recently moved to Mumbai and expected to save a lot of their outgoings on housing rents, etc. They are shockingly surprised that the margin after-all isn’t that pleasant. Its kinda ironic that the real estate development is pretty much driving the infrastructure. First, things start propping all around the city- then there is huge shortage of energy, transportation facilities. Everyone has to bare the brunt till one day the the local authorities realize the “NEED” or rather get pressurized by the same real estate developers.

shakfoo says:

Shirsha, your comment about the cost of living in Bangalore being more than Bombay or Delhi is factually incorrect. Doing a quick Google search will demonstrate that in a matter of minutes.

According to Mercer HR Consulting (a global leader for trusted HR and related financial advice, products, and services), who publishes an annual ranking of the cost of living in cities across the globe, in 2006 Bombay ranked #68 in the world in terms of cost of living. Delhi came in at #110 with Bangalore trailing the other two at #139. Check this link for more information ( http://www.finfacts.ie/costofliving.htm )

In the future, do us all a favor and please verify facts before posting crumbs. Thanks!

shakfoo says:

I just rechecked the rankings list and it turns out the Delhi is #73, not #110 as I had mentioned earlier. They were #110 in 2005. Apologies for the mix-up.

Shirsha says:

Shakfoo, am speaking from my experiences in these cities & from my observations of the lower middle class and the poor in these cities.
Haven’t claimed my ideas to be based on facts…
Thanks for the link though…

desh says:

@shirsha
doesnt matter whether its low or high…its too much yaar
facts r mostly quantittaive in nature…th one who live in city knw th actual thng
one goodd thngs with othr cities is a good public transport system…here tht also disappoints…

@shakfoo
doesnt matter if shirsha mixed up the facts
a 110 or 139 doesnt matter, mere numbers…we shud realise tht overall our urban structures r fallin

@sunit
u made ur point sunit, its like a real estate development is actually shrinking th resources further and rising th prizes up like crazy…
sometimes th prizes in cities seem to humorously high
neway mumbai is goin up but th point i tried to make tht its been always quite high…cities liek bangalore r rising but thr urban structure has not been able to sustain it…
all our cities r crumplin under this pressure n we have woken up to infrastructure development in these a lil too late

Shirsha says:

Oh yes, the poor public transport is the first thing that comes to my mind when I think of this. A comparison of Bangalore’s public transport and that is Mumbai’s / Kolkata’s

Cipson says:

A real look into the cost of living in Bangalore. But there are alternatives which is less expensive..but it will not be posh and will not get much style

http://meninweb.blogspot.com/ A Bangalore blog

desh says:

@shirsha
its orrible…buses take too long a time, till th metro comes up it will be screwed up fully

@cipson
obviously not, but even they r not so less expensive cipson :)

ramya says:

hi!
I stay out of india and my husband has got a job offer in bangalore recently. I would like to know the cost of living out there. I keep hearing that its too high out there. I would like to rent a 3bhk apt somewhere near sarajapur road- marathahalli.
Could you please let me know what would be the minimum salary required to live a comfortable life in bangalore?
Since I belong to TN, I have no idea about bangalore.

Thanx and regards
ramya

meenakshi says:

Ramya, you are probably talking about Rs.20,000 for renting a 3 bedroom apartment. Other utility bills including telephone, electricity etc will cost you maybe another Rs.3000. Food - Rs.8000 for two people. Assuming that you are not eating out too much. Maid - Rs.800-1000 for sweeping, swabbing and washing dishes. Petrol and transportation costs - depends on you - lets say another Rs.3000.
All this works to about Rs.35,000 take home salary.
Don’t forget to take into account household stuff and appliances that you may need to buy initially.
Of course, all this completely depends on your lifestyle.

desh says:

i think ramya you got ur queries answered, but meenakshi’s perspective is a bit different mine is a lot different :)
but better take her advice when it comes to matters of bangalore
keep visitin blah

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